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post Jan 2 2008, 05:24 PM
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Tell me you are joking because this is complete BS.


Yes this was my attempt at sarcasm. I fully believe in the greenhouse effect.

So do you all think something like The Day After Tomorrow will actually happen and would it be such a bad thing?
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post Jan 2 2008, 05:34 PM
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ok, you need to put some kind of smiley after, or words or something that says sarcasm...just so things will be clarified tongue.gif

I don't remember the day after tomorrow....


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post Jan 3 2008, 12:13 PM
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Its a very believable movie about the effects of Global Warming. If you haven't seen it and this topic interest you then you should srsly rent it today.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/

And I'll take your advice about my sarcasm smile.gif Not! tongue.gif

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post Jan 3 2008, 03:18 PM
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LOL^ That's better tongue.gif

I remember that movie!!

Yes, I think it could...no...bad choice of words...I think it is PLAUSIBLE that it could happen.

Maybe not to the point of the movie, but pretty damn close...or maybe we will be taken out by meteors like the dinos!


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post Jan 3 2008, 05:59 PM
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^Haha, you know a few years ago a meteor just missed us.


The funny thing was though that scientists only spotted it after it went passed the earth. So, for all we know there could well be a meteor heading for earth right now.


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post Jan 3 2008, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I remember that...and last week (maybe 2 weeks ago...I lose track of time easily) there was a meteor headed for the 4th planet from the sun, Mars...Haven't heard much more than that though!

mmm....topic idea xD

Edit: It was reported Dec 20th:
http://cbs2.com/local/Mars.Asteroid.January.2.615674.html


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post Jan 3 2008, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(steiner @ Jan 3 2008, 12:59 PM) *

^Haha, you know a few years ago a meteor just missed us.


The funny thing was though that scientists only spotted it after it went passed the earth. So, for all we know there could well be a meteor heading for earth right now.

Interesting...do you know of a link with information about that meteor?


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post Jan 3 2008, 10:33 PM
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Here is the link about the meteor just missing the earth a few years ago:

http://www.fair-society.org/articlesnews/a..._earth_by_r.htm

Also, while I was looking for that, I found this:

Key findings of the Pentagon Report

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0222-01.htm

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Randall told The Observer that the potential ramifications of rapid climate change would create global chaos. 'This is depressing stuff,' he said. 'It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat.'


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post Jan 3 2008, 11:05 PM
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Thanks. It's puzzling to think how something that small could just pwn the earth and have such drastic consequences.


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post Jan 3 2008, 11:10 PM
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wow...and I watched Armageddon today!! How appropriate.


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post Jan 4 2008, 03:59 PM
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I found some facts from 2007 and how shit is changing and etc:

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552 billion tons of ice melted this summer from the Greenland ice sheet, according to preliminary satellite data to be released by NASA Wednesday. That's 15 percent more than the annual average summer melt, beating 2005's record.

- A record amount of surface ice was lost over Greenland this year, 12 percent more than the previous worst year, 2005, according to data the University of Colorado released Monday. That's nearly quadruple the amount that melted just 15 years ago. It's an amount of water that could cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep, researchers calculated.

- The surface area of summer sea ice floating in the Arctic Ocean this summer was nearly 23 percent below the previous record. The dwindling sea ice already has affected wildlife, with 6,000 walruses coming ashore in northwest Alaska in October for the first time in recorded history. Another first: the Northwest Passage was open to navigation.

- Still to be released is NASA data showing the remaining Arctic sea ice to be unusually thin, another record. That makes it more likely to melt in future summers. Combining the shrinking area covered by sea ice with the new thinness of the remaining ice, scientists calculate that the overall volume of ice is half of 2004's total.

- Alaska's frozen permafrost is warming, not quite thawing yet. But temperature measurements 66 feet deep in the frozen soil rose nearly four-tenths of a degree from 2006 to 2007, according to measurements from the University of Alaska. While that may not sound like much, "it's very significant," said University of Alaska professor Vladimir Romanovsky.

Greenland, in particular, is a significant bellwether. Most of its surface is covered by ice. If it completely melted - something key scientists think would likely take centuries, not decades-it could add more than 22 feet to the worlds sea level


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NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: "At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions."


I thought this was interesting because first they were saying that the ice would be melted by 2040...wow...we are killing ourselves slowly...

I think I am gonna get out of the US before the US is washed away or burned away, or w/e xD



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post Jan 4 2008, 04:09 PM
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If im not mistaken the chances of total meltdown and massive inundation along with other ambiental catasptrophes of the world are very high in this years of total stupidity in ecoglogical keeping, but if you take in accounts many actions that are being made to prevent this you cant make a true date to this "Armaggedon", because you cant know if the day of tommorow all the people of the world(I know this may never happen) will take pure actions against this menace, so people no matter what experts say never believe that >put date here< will be our end


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post Jan 4 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Resurrection @ Jan 3 2008, 11:05 PM) *

Thanks. It's puzzling to think how something that small could just pwn the earth and have such drastic consequences.

Haha, but it wouldnt really pwn the earth. It would just pwn us.


Thanks for the link btw RB.


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post Jan 4 2008, 04:17 PM
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If im not mistaken the chances of total meltdown and massive inundation along with other ambiental catasptrophes of the world are very high in this years of total stupidity in ecoglogical keeping, but if you take in accounts many actions that are being made to prevent this you cant make a true date to this "Armaggedon", because you cant know if the day of tommorow all the people of the world(I know this may never happen) will take pure actions against this menace, so people no matter what experts say never believe that >put date here< will be our end


That's true...BUT...the fact that the dates are in our lifetime is rather scary. I know not to believe exact dates...but I do know they are mostly right within a 20 year time frame xD

What's even worse is that California was trying to get the EPA to pass a law for cars for reducing the emissions they put out...but shock shock....they shot it down saying that it would be better if everyone does it as a whole and not to do it as individuals....

If that was the case, then why not pass it for all the states...why is our government this stupid to shoot that down....oh right! They don't wanna lose money....bastards rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 4 2008, 04:20 PM
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it is right, this world is run by money and as long as greedy bastards exist in power im sure most of this actions are useless, and if someone opposes they are or head-shotted, poisoned, victim in a suicidal attacks,ect.

i am surely going to enjoy the look in their faces when the world ends, well not when the world ends when the Human species are tottally extinct


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post Jan 4 2008, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(steiner @ Jan 4 2008, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Resurrection @ Jan 3 2008, 11:05 PM) *

Thanks. It's puzzling to think how something that small could just pwn the earth and have such drastic consequences.

Haha, but it wouldnt really pwn the earth. It would just pwn us.

True. Does anybody know exactly HOW such a relatively small object could cause so much damage?


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^Well, the amount of dust that goes into the atmosphere would destroy eco-systems because many species of plants would die causing many herbivores to die. etc. If it lands in water there is a tsunami, if it lands on land, the heat given off is huge, stuff like that.

I don't know exactly but there are people who do because they've done all sorts of calculations. Of course, its possible they've missed something out but I think they'd be pretty accurate in general. Its basically just a combination of physics and biology. Physics is used to work out the damage caused and biology is used to work out the survivability of the different species in the new conditions.


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Here's another question that popped into my head over the weekend...

One of the sites I was reading was saying that we are already over populated and that earth is over it's maximum capacity.

Besdies the obvious water, food, and resource shortage....would it be possible that we would drop out of the solar system?

If it did, which way would we fall? Towards the sun and burn to death, or away from the sun and go into an iceage, and freeze to death?


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post Jan 7 2008, 04:24 PM
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Food and water shortages are a problem but as for the falling thing you have to remember 2 things.

Firstly, the sun's gravitational pull is too strong to be affected by weight changes on Earth. You would have to drop a moon in the sea to notice any real difference.

Secondly the mass of the Earth hardly changes at all. When people are born they are made out of the materials the Earth had to begin with. When food is eaten it releases energy which can create new cells which replace the food that has been eaten. So the overall weight doesn't really change.


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post Jan 7 2008, 04:27 PM
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^ Right....but I was saying IF....

If the worlds population was so much where it did effect the gravitational pull....just go with me here xD


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