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post May 21 2008, 07:23 PM
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If you got 5 minutes watch this and listen to the lyrics. rolleyes.gif
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You don't have to commit a hate crime to be a racist. Telling a racial joke or slur no matter how accepting the audience you share it with is, makes you a racist. There's no gray here people. Just black and white. You are or you aren't.


So can you really say that you aren't?


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I admit that I am. Even if it's just a little bit. Because it makes no difference to what degree you're racist. The point is, you are. This may sound odd but for some reason my own race and culture, which is Filipino, turns me off. I'm not quite sure where this mentality came from but whenever I see ethnic Filipinos (not American-Flips) I feel embarassed and ashamed.. Maybe it's their choppy English that makes me cringe? Or how they use their fingers to eat food? Or that the Philippines is widely known for prostitution and mailorder brides? Idk but there it is.


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post May 21 2008, 07:32 PM
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post May 21 2008, 08:18 PM
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Im Sri Lankan, and you white people suck!


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post May 22 2008, 11:02 AM
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^Go eat a banana.


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post May 22 2008, 12:29 PM
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Actually until you commit a hate crime you aren't a racist. You're just prejudice. People get them confused a lot.


But I agree, to some extent, everyone is prejudice. I'll admit that I am. I get annoyed when I go out somewhere and half of the people are speaking Spanish. Yeah, yeah, I know there's more than one language in the world. But when you come to live in a country you can at least learn the language. Especially if you're going to be living here illegally.
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But am I going to go hurt someone just because they're Mexican? Of course not. That's horrible.


Still, I proved Bini's point. tongue.gif


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post May 22 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(joesmith123 @ May 22 2008, 12:02 PM) *

^Go eat a banana.

lol, that woulda worked better if I were black though.

So you fail.

Like George Bush.

Because you and him are the only banana munchers around here.


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post May 22 2008, 05:23 PM
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I have my own share on prejudice. It's nothing personal but I think most of the typical Americans who's born in states have lack of discipline. Hate to be blunt but that's how I see them. Regardless of race, especially kids.


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post May 22 2008, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(fierytempest @ May 22 2008, 06:29 AM) *

Actually until you commit a hate crime you aren't a racist. You're just prejudice. People get them confused a lot.

Actually.

The mere fact that you discriminate against someone based on "race" does make you racist. There's nothing to confuse. You are not racist if you hate fat people but you are prejudice. Being prejudice covers a wide variety of groups, people, etc etc. Whereas being racist only applies to subjects of race.


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post May 22 2008, 07:57 PM
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I am. I'll be honest and tell it to people up front. I don't like hiding things, like me for who I am or you can get lost, lol.

Pretty much that's it.


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post May 22 2008, 09:57 PM
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By your consideration then hell yeah I'm racist. To anyone who didn't know me and my black neighbour you'd think we were both extremists when he calls me casper and milk-top and i go tell him to pick me some cotton. It's all banter, but at the end of the day I only do it when i feel people will laugh. In a serious situation i wouldn't bother. Hassle, and people tend to go "Oh that's Nick, he's a racist" when I tell a single joke with racial connotations. Not worth it at all.

That being said I hate many many white people xD


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post May 22 2008, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(steiner @ May 22 2008, 04:47 PM) *

QUOTE(joesmith123 @ May 22 2008, 12:02 PM) *

^Go eat a banana.

lol, that woulda worked better if I were black though.

So you fail.

Like George Bush.

Because you and him are the only banana munchers around here.


So there are no bananas in Sri Lanka? How about a coconut then? biggrin.gif


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post May 22 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(steiner @ May 21 2008, 04:18 PM) *

Im Sri Lankan, and you white people suck!

Seriously? I thought you were British for some reason. Maybe I'm mixing you up with someone else on here.


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post May 23 2008, 06:40 AM
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Call me an hypocrite but I am not. I seriously don't care about people race. I've been encoutered many idiots in my life and all them from different races and countries. Here many gypsies are a real pain in the ass and many people I know think they all should burn (seriously). But I've known also some others (mostly foreigners, that's true) who were really nice.

And like Nick and Bini said, most of the time you can find lots of morons amongst your own race, in my case the white.

So, being a good and nice person or being a total bastard is not something race-related for me


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post May 23 2008, 09:04 AM
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I tell jokes about every race, including my own, so I consider myself absolved on that front as I mock everyone equally! But yeah, if you define racism like Avenue Q does in that song - for example calling someone 'oriental" instead of "Asian-American" or "black" instead of "African-American", then most people are racist cause the "racist" term is easier on the toungue.

Question, what is the PC term for "Black" in the UK then?

Come to think of it, I don't think people who call black people "Black" in America are the least bit racist at all, at least not because of the terminology their using. I mean, how many people call White people 'European-Americans?"


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post May 23 2008, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Fox @ May 23 2008, 10:04 AM) *

I tell jokes about every race, including my own, so I consider myself absolved on that front as I mock everyone equally! But yeah, if you define racism like Avenue Q does in that song - for example calling someone 'oriental" instead of "Asian-American" or "black" instead of "African-American", then most people are racist cause the "racist" term is easier on the toungue.

Question, what is the PC term for "Black" in the UK then?

Come to think of it, I don't think people who call black people "Black" in America are the least bit racist at all, at least not because of the terminology their using. I mean, how many people call White people 'European-Americans?"


The PC term is allegedly "Coloured" but most don't agree with it. There's a lame ass poem about it somewhere.


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post May 23 2008, 11:03 AM
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There is a ton of sensitivity in the U.S. when dealing with people of color due to the massive slave trade we had going on over here. Then the years of treating blacks as second class citizens on top of it creates in the minds of a lot of black Americans a very defensive stand towards what white people in this country say or do.

Are black people in the U.K. as sensitive? I never thought so since England outlawed slavery way before the U.S. did and treated blacks fairer than we did in decades past. Such as during WWII when some black soldiers decided to stay in the U.K. and elsewhere in Europe instead of going home to the U.S.


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Yeah there doesnt seem to be as much sensitivity over the issue over here. But I think we still have ridiculous hate crime laws.

Why do you get a longer sentence for beating someone up cause they're black rather than cause you want their cash? Hate crime laws are racist against minorities AND the majority!! Why can't governments see that the best way to get rid of racism is to treat everyone the same and not practice it themselves?

One of the best things I ever saw on race was a south park episode where the council releases a new town flag, with 4 white people hanging a black person. Great episode and makes you think as well.

Oh yeah, and reparations are bullshit.



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post May 23 2008, 01:26 PM
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But if everyone is a racist, why does it matter if anyone is a racist?

Our racism cancels each other out. tongue.gif


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post May 23 2008, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Resurrection @ May 23 2008, 12:36 AM) *

QUOTE(steiner @ May 21 2008, 04:18 PM) *

Im Sri Lankan, and you white people suck!

Seriously? I thought you were British for some reason. Maybe I'm mixing you up with someone else on here.

Well I am British. Im a British Sri Lankan. I was born here though, and Ive only been to Sri Lanka once. (War, dammit)


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So there are no bananas in Sri Lanka? How about a coconut then? biggrin.gif

Yeah there are. But Im in England atm.

Coconuts are in there as well. But I cant find any in England. How about you and George climb up a tree and get me one?



And yeah, black people arent as sensitive over here.


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QUOTE(Dawn @ May 22 2008, 11:40 PM) *
you can find lots of morons amongst your own race
If I spoke about my own bias on a part of my own race, half of the world's population would probably pointing fingers at me rolleyes.gif

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