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post Dec 13 2006, 09:48 PM
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Yeah...I'm torn as to which I approve of! Following a holy text to the letter...or interpreting it differently to fit in more with modern society....hmmm....

lol reminds me of a Scrubs quote!
Jesus: Every life is precious so I'm sorry...but no abortions.
J.D: But. what if his parents were drug dealers who would treat the kid like crap?
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Jesus: NO! How are you not getting this? No - Abortions!


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post Dec 13 2006, 10:16 PM
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Jesus is a character on Scrubs?


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post Dec 13 2006, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(FFmaster08 @ Dec 13 2006, 10:16 PM) *

Jesus is a character on Scrubs?


He makes brief appearences every now and then!

^K-I. I agree with most of what you said....especially the who;le "how would you know?". Many people DO claim to be the son of God in htis day and age...but we always consider them nutters.


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post Dec 15 2006, 04:41 AM
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@Snake

It is late so I only read the beginning of your post (I'll finish tomorrow). But when you say that Jesus can come to earth and no one will know he is here is obsurd if you have read even a little bit of Revelation. There is going to be so many huge things going on that no one will be able to deny what is going on including, beasts, angels, and plauges. Also, He would not be born like he was some 2000 years ago, but decend from heaven. After reading your post, I wonder if you have read at all what Christians believe will happen, or did you just make up a hypothesis of your own and argue with that?

Also, I have said this several times on these forums, but I'll say it again. To call Jesus a prophet or wise man or whatever, is to call him a liar. He said he was the Son of God. He also specifically said he was not a prophet. To call him one is to call him a liar.
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post Dec 15 2006, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Kalantzi5 @ Dec 15 2006, 05:41 AM) *

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It is late so I only read the beginning of your post (I'll finish tomorrow). But when you say that Jesus can come to earth and no one will know he is here is obsurd if you have read even a little bit of Revelation. There is going to be so many huge things going on that no one will be able to deny what is going on including, beasts, angels, and plauges. Also, He would not be born like he was some 2000 years ago, but decend from heaven. After reading your post, I wonder if you have read at all what Christians believe will happen, or did you just make up a hypothesis of your own and argue with that?

Also, I have said this several times on these forums, but I'll say it again. To call Jesus a prophet or wise man or whatever, is to call him a liar. He said he was the Son of God. He also specifically said he was not a prophet. To call him one is to call him a liar.

So wait, first you say we cant deny what the Bible says, because it is the word of God.

But later you say that Jesus isnt a prophet, even though thats what the Christian religion, and thus the Bible says.


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post Dec 15 2006, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(new2ya @ Dec 15 2006, 04:58 PM) *

But later you say that Jesus isnt a prophet, even though thats what the Christian religion, and thus the Bible says.



Please tell where it says he is a prophet.
He is God.
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post Dec 18 2006, 10:43 PM
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retracted.

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post Dec 19 2006, 07:02 PM
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:38 PM
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When Russia and Iran invade Israel that's when He will return.


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post Dec 19 2006, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(kainsavenger @ Dec 19 2006, 09:38 PM) *

When Russia and Iran invade Israel that's when He will return.

The Jews neglected Jesus, thus they betrayed God. They are not his people, they are just as important to him as any person on the planet.

So your Israel idea is close to nonexisting.


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post Dec 19 2006, 09:20 PM
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God knew this topic would b posted and he knew that when he said he'd be "coming soon" that all would go "ooh! he won't tell us when!" no one knows!!!!!!!! i think its when all have heard about The Big Man Upstairs, but thats just me! He obviously has a sense of humor... maybe he'll come down in the first atomic bomb of WWIII i dunno!


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post Dec 19 2006, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(new2ya @ Dec 19 2006, 02:55 PM) *

QUOTE(kainsavenger @ Dec 19 2006, 09:38 PM) *

When Russia and Iran invade Israel that's when He will return.

The Jews neglected Jesus, thus they betrayed God. They are not his people, they are just as important to him as any person on the planet.

So your Israel idea is close to nonexisting.


Except for the whole part in Revelations that talks about the invasion of Israel occuring before Jesus returns.


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post Dec 19 2006, 11:51 PM
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But who says it will be Russia and Iran?

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post Dec 20 2006, 05:04 AM
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It says that the man that brings peace between the decendants of Isaac (Isreal) and of Ishmael (Mostly Iran, Iraq, Saudi etc.) will be the anti-christ. I don't know where that is exactally, but that is one of the things that needs to happen first. I don't know about the Russia and Iran thing though, could you point to something to supposrt that?
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post Dec 20 2006, 05:18 AM
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New2ya,
Who are you to judge that Jews are not Gods people? Seriously! You don't speak for The Father. You really think you know the mind of the divine?
That's not debate, that's just insulting.

And for my other serious two bits. There's no way we can know when the return of Jesus will happen. There's always signs to look for, but the signs that people see now adays are nothing new. People are still coming off of the millennial fever, but humanity in their own small globe of existence have seen horrors just as bad as ours, if not worse on their own scale. We've lived through two world wars with no return and many other horrors in the years before that. Things have got to get a lot worse IMHO for us to see the dawning on a new coming.

Fun fact, many ancient and foreign cultures have their own belief of a man preaching peace and brotherhood, only to be prosecuted by his own people and dying with a promise to return. It's similar to how many cultures share the Great Flood story.

The biggest problem with His return? US. Not the United States... we as a people of the world. Instead of explain it, there's a great chapter in the book The Brothers Karamazov by Dosteyofsky (sp) entitled "The Grand Inquisitor". It's basically a "what if" Jesus had returned during the Spanish Inquisition, but nobody (except 1 man) knew he had returned. Very powerful food for thought for people as a whole.

Will Jesus return in our lifetime? My money is on no.

**by the way, I really think those Left Behind books tend to rile up people too much and they need to be reminded that they are fiction. We as poeple need to calm down and concentrate on being better to each other.

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post Dec 20 2006, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(TomRez @ Dec 20 2006, 06:18 AM) *

New2ya,
Who are you to judge that Jews are not Gods people? Seriously! You don't speak for The Father. You really think you know the mind of the divine?
That's not debate, that's just insulting.

Dude, they betrayed their own God. They were no longer His people after they murdered His Son. We ALL are His people now.


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QUOTE(kainsavenger @ Dec 19 2006, 04:36 PM) *

QUOTE(new2ya @ Dec 19 2006, 02:55 PM) *

QUOTE(kainsavenger @ Dec 19 2006, 09:38 PM) *

When Russia and Iran invade Israel that's when He will return.

The Jews neglected Jesus, thus they betrayed God. They are not his people, they are just as important to him as any person on the planet.

So your Israel idea is close to nonexisting.


Except for the whole part in Revelations that talks about the invasion of Israel occuring before Jesus returns.


Many believe that in the bible gog and megog are russia and iran.


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QUOTE(TomRez @ Dec 20 2006, 06:18 AM) *

New2ya,
Who are you to judge that Jews are not Gods people? Seriously! You don't speak for The Father. You really think you know the mind of the divine?
That's not debate, that's just insulting.

Dude, they betrayed their own God. They were no longer His people after they murdered His Son. We ALL are His people now.


The jews didn't believe Jesus was the son of God so how did they betray him, and if you check history/bible whichever you want you will find that the Roman's had a lot to do with Jesus's death so the jews aren,t alone in the blame


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QUOTE(kainsavenger @ Dec 20 2006, 05:02 PM) *

Many believe that in the bible gog and megog are russia and iran.

Isn't that in the book of Ezekiel, not Revelation?

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wow i cant believe thers so many christians here... I wish Jesus would just come bak and end this topic.


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I do, too. But we must be patient.

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